tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5461044.post1210746283653957084..comments2023-10-24T11:03:41.388-05:00Comments on ladypoverty: J.R. Boydhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09076895859826581960noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5461044.post-87524366990648618002009-09-03T06:54:46.881-05:002009-09-03T06:54:46.881-05:00JRB,
Too true. People generally agree that the p...JRB,<br /><br />Too true. People generally agree that the political class does not have any interest in mind other than their own yet will soil themselves if asked to do something about it. <br /><br />I also believe that there is a significant language gap. The terms 'socialism', 'libertarianism' and 'anarchism' are words everyone recognizes and few understand. I can speak to my rocket-scientist brother-in-law about jet engines but when it comes down to it, I know fuck-all what he is actually talking about.d.mantishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03817778296282926641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5461044.post-50903261854128988792009-09-01T16:00:54.748-05:002009-09-01T16:00:54.748-05:00I think the advantage is to approach people withou...I think the advantage is to approach people without preconceptions about who they are or how they should be engaged. Let them do the work. If they are sincere about their values, it's not hard to reveal how their political allegiance betrays them. To do it effectively -- without alienating the person -- only requires patience and some creativity.<br /><br />Attacking and discrediting the political class is something "conservatives" do constantly to good effect -- and yet anarchists <i>could</i> be doing it so much better. If only we weren't so afraid to talk to people.JRBhttp://ladypoverty.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5461044.post-59594091159764074372009-09-01T11:57:47.024-05:002009-09-01T11:57:47.024-05:00Unfortunately, I think it comes down to basic grou...Unfortunately, I think it comes down to basic group think in most cases. <br /><br />The republicans (out of personal principle I refuse to capitalize any party) speak of God more and are identified as conservative. Therefore, they garner the corresponding votes. Other issues bolster this basic foundation (ie gun rights) but this is the basic formula.<br /><br />The democrats are associated with specific non-issues that they will never actually do anything about but garner an almost dogmatic following (ie abortion, gay rights etc). <br /><br />Politics are local. When I speak to people of either label, what usually distinguishes one from the other is a single issue. <br /><br />However, if the discussion can be led by a round-about path to matters of libertarian socialism, then it is amazing how quickly people agree. Of course one cannot ever use that term, but it works just the same.d.mantishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03817778296282926641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5461044.post-52234788585369957332009-08-28T11:38:31.918-05:002009-08-28T11:38:31.918-05:00point well taken.point well taken.Montagnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5461044.post-43585649911192056072009-08-28T11:01:14.219-05:002009-08-28T11:01:14.219-05:00Montag,
I'm glad you talk to them and listen...Montag, <br /><br />I'm glad you talk to them and listen to their concerns.<br /><br />If "might makes right" then our conservative friends should have no problem with big government and be happy to surrender their AR-15's to a central authority.<br /><br />The fact is many Republicans are disenchanted with their party since W. because it betrayed the principles of "less government" so egregiously.JRBhttp://ladypoverty.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5461044.post-33373664280364003062009-08-28T07:33:36.204-05:002009-08-28T07:33:36.204-05:00few would argue that all things are justified simp...<i>few would argue that all things are justified simply because they exist.</i><br /><br />a lot of day-to-day American, Republican voting, self-described conservatives that i talk to, (boss, brother-in-law, fellow school parents, co-workers, etc,) seem to subscribe to a "might makes right" view towards power. (a variation of the above?) whether they have given much thought to the consequences of this, i do not know, but they are at least fairly consistent in viewing events through this lens.Montaghttp://www.stumplane.us/blognoreply@blogger.com