tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5461044.post235908369631163735..comments2023-10-24T11:03:41.388-05:00Comments on ladypoverty: The "then" commandmentsJ.R. Boydhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09076895859826581960noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5461044.post-37522210719800561132010-11-10T08:51:20.475-05:002010-11-10T08:51:20.475-05:00We can think of any force, sufficiently empowered,...We can think of any force, sufficiently empowered, as the graveyard of all social relations. Now we're exiting capitalist critique and entering the way of all totality of power.<br /><br />And I'll echo Brian's first observation. This is a dynamic that may be taking place within capitalism, but does not need capitalism in order to exist as it does. The ultra-orthodox despised the atheist socialist Zionists who subsidized them and declared the state of Israel without waiting for the moschiach. It is a great irony that marketeers, the allies of the ultra-orthodox, may be moving in on the sweet gig that is being a tax-funded religious scholar, but that is as much about capitalism as it is about the primacy of the state, or the nation, or whatever. Ethnic nationalists used to have more in common with the haredim. Now they may find more in common with the Russian xenophobes. This is not about capital anymore. It is about the juggernaut that is Power itself. And it ends up rolling all of us under, should it see a need.Cüneythttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09839492265797382364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5461044.post-53030428841387624382010-11-09T23:47:24.302-05:002010-11-09T23:47:24.302-05:00we can think of Capital as the graveyard of all so...we can think of Capital as the graveyard of all social relations. maybe that's a bit too fatalistic - maybe it's just a plague on all social relations, one that can be prevented with better living and care about our philosophical hygiene.almostinfamoushttp://almostinfamous.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5461044.post-63090685021778457752010-11-09T19:03:57.474-05:002010-11-09T19:03:57.474-05:00Makes sense, JRB.
I just want to echo an earlie...Makes sense, JRB. <br /><br />I just want to echo an earlier commenter that this is one of the more thoughtful (and eloquent) "political" blogs out there and I really enjoy your writing.Brian Mnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5461044.post-40430186589734203252010-11-09T14:04:12.366-05:002010-11-09T14:04:12.366-05:00Brian M:
There's no obvious moral conclusion ...Brian M:<br /><br />There's no obvious moral conclusion for me. I'm just saying, look what's in conflict here. It's very interesting -- especially within the context of a "religious state."<br /><br />Capitalism has to expand if it is going to exist, and that puts it in conflict with all sorts of competing trends. It also creates contradictions internal to itself, as it goes along. <br /><br />We have to decide for ourselves which trends deserve to be defended <i>against</i> capitalism, and which trends deserve to be pursued <i>through</i> capitalism, insofar it is already upon us.JRBhttp://ladypoverty.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5461044.post-65979607479449030622010-11-09T13:43:14.034-05:002010-11-09T13:43:14.034-05:00Given my skepticism about the value of these react...Given my skepticism about the value of these reactionary trolls sitting and reading them damn scrolls all day....I am almost sympathetic to the capitalists here. LOL. <br /><br />And...given that these "religious scholars" certainly remain militantly in favor of using military force to maintain the purity of the religious state...there is some pretty serious hypocrisy here on their part. Especially since they generate no wealth themselves and receive direct financial benefits from the State and capitalism they purport to despise. <br /><br />I'm not sure this is a good example. Even in pre-capitalist societies, was it wrong for the peasants to resent the mandatory, state-enforced tithes required to support in luxury the priestly castes?Brian Mnoreply@blogger.com