tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5461044.post492100744558969693..comments2023-10-24T11:03:41.388-05:00Comments on ladypoverty: Civilization and its discontentsJ.R. Boydhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09076895859826581960noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5461044.post-54041253534497185272010-08-24T02:38:14.659-05:002010-08-24T02:38:14.659-05:00it was my reading of marx that he wanted a soewhat...it was my reading of marx that he wanted a soewhat anarcho-socialist 'end', with communism(esp. soviet style communism) serving as a stopgap measure.almostinfamoushttp://almostinfamous.tumblr.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5461044.post-33875648988025848852010-08-20T12:50:11.704-05:002010-08-20T12:50:11.704-05:00Well, I think the general idea is that most people...Well, I think the general idea is that most people don't consider scientific and technological development as stupid in and of itself. That seems pretty uncontroversial to me, at least when I look around at what people are interested in, how they <i>like</i> to spend their time, etc. <br /><br />Also, Marx didn't say a lot about communism -- it's not what he focused on -- but what he did say wasn't any different from what the anarchists of his day believed would be a "sensible end for humans," to use your words. Their differences didn't arise out of this issue at all.JRBhttp://ladypoverty.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5461044.post-15318239920360976112010-08-20T12:29:11.419-05:002010-08-20T12:29:11.419-05:00I was reading right along with you until you said ...I was reading right along with you until you said "space exploration" in the same sentence as "things we like" and "keeping" those things.<br /><br />What?<br /><br />I believe my side was rent open by gut-busting laughter.<br /><br />Marx also happens to think --from his writings that I have scanned-- that the communist endpoint is the only sensible one for humans, the huge centralized bureaucracy the only sensible end for humans.<br /><br />Pardon me while I go prepare my veal fattening pen for eternal occupation.<br /><br />So yeah, he got a few things right, as have many thinkers before him and many after him. Where he goes wrong is his solution, or set thereof, for remedy of the problems he so convolutedly examines.<br /><br />Stopping at Glossy Karl and not moving on past his many handicaps, this is what will make life hard 50-100 years from now, for those who imagine themselves by and of "the left."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com